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What You Don’t Know About LGBTQ+ Family Making

Robin and Jaimie here. We’re the co-hosts of the podcast If These Ovaries Could Talk, and authors of a book by the same title coming out in September 2020. We’re moms, we’re lesbians (who are married to other ladies) and we each have two kids. And we’re here to talk about what you don’t know about LGBTQ+ family making.

What many folks don’t realize is that there is no simple way for LGBTQ+ people to have babies. There are so many decisions that we have to make because we have too much of one thing and not enough of the other. Two women have two uterus (or is it uteruses? uteri?), but they don’t have sperm. Two men have all the sperm in the world, but come up short in the eggs and hopper department. And with trans fertility, the questions are more specific to each individual or couple, but that doesn’t mean there are fewer questions to be answered.

In terms of paths, you can embark on the scientific route, but you’ll need to figure out who will carry the babywhose egg will be usedwho will donate the spermwho will go first. Perhaps you’ll consider using a surrogateIVFIUI, or even trying at home with what we like to call the “turkey baster method.” You may think about adopting. If you do, you’ll need to figure out if you want to adopt internationally or domestically or if you want to use an adoption lawyer or private agency. And don’t forget there’s always the option of being foster parents.

Wherever you fall on the LGBTQ+ spectrum, if you want to have a kid, you’ll have to figure out how to make that baby. And no matter which path you choose, it will cost ya…a lot.

Now, you’d think there would be a lot of grumbling from LGBTQ+ folks about how hard it is to make families. Well, we’re here to tell you that hasn’t been our experience. The folks we’ve talked to have made thoughtful decisions and were deliberate and intentional at every turn. Instead of the process feeling like a cross to bear, every choice they made defined and illuminated their families in love. And that’s beautiful.

Now here are our personal LGBTQ+ family making stories.


I have always wanted to birth a child. Being gay never once deterred me from that. It just solidified the fact that I had to partner with a woman who wanted to be a mother and felt no need to carry. Luckily, I met Anne, who fit the criteria. It was a match made in heaven.

Considering all this, imagine my shock when Anne said to me, in a bar, a month after our wedding, “Ya know, I think I wanna have a baby.

I’m sorry, what?” I asked calmly while trying not to choke on the sip of beer I was having trouble forcing down my throat. I was thrown for a loop.

My anxiety kicked in. I made Anne promise that if we do this “you have a baby” thing, I still get to have mine. She assured me that she wouldn’t back out of our agreement, we would have two children, no matter what. I forced her to pinky swear her loyalty to the plan religiously throughout the next five years it took to get that second baby in our arms.

So there it is, our family was planned in a bar over beers like any self-respecting lesbian couple should plan it. I always knew I would carry a child. I didn’t know I would go through over 20 IUIs, 3 IVFS, and liquidate my wife’s pension, twice, to make our family. I didn’t know I would experience the richness that comes from being both bio and non-bio mom or that my understanding of what makes a family would shift because of it. My family is more beautiful than I ever could have imagined because my wife threw me for a loop in a bar and decided she wanted to carry too. Lesbians never cease to amaze.


From the moment my wife and I learned about reciprocal IVF (using my eggs but Mary would carry) we were all about it. The idea that we could make a baby who would have my genetics, but literally be made from Mary’s bones, seemed like the coolest science experiment ever invented.

We knew that was how we would create our family.

The downside? My insurance only covered one IVF procedure and even then, it would cost around $26,0000. We only had enough money to try once. That meant no more IVFs and no more savings account. But we were blinded by the idea that the baby would be made of the two of us, so we forged ahead. It wasn’t until we were handed ten different prescription forms that we began to question our plan. I couldn’t help but think about the fact that the odds of us having a successful pregnancy in one round of IVF were not on our side. Not to mention what we would be putting ourselves through physically.

That’s when my wife said, “Are we going about this the hardest possible way?

The answer was, “Yes.” We loved the idea of the baby coming from both of us, but we needed to prioritize being parents and being fiscally responsible over needing our baby to be from both of us. These are the decisions us L, G, B, T & Q’s have to make.

So we changed directions and went forward doing an unmedicated IUI with me. Simply put, we bought some sperm, and the doctor put it in near my lady parts. Luckily, I got pregnant fairly easily with both our kids. And if anyone is counting, the cost was about $6000 per baby.

But we got two amazing and beautiful kids.

This is partially excerpted from Jaimie and Robin’s forthcoming book, “If These Ovaries Could Talk: The Things We’ve Learned About Making an LGBTQ+ Family.” “If These Ovaries Could Talk” podcast is available where ever you get your pods.